As I said - taxpayers are going to be responsible for proving services (perceived) that they all aren't eligible to get. (Which in my mind, is a valid reason to be annoyed - but providing health care to all is SOCIALISM OOOOOOOH yanno. Hey, you asked for it this way.) Hot button.
You haven't tried to get welfare since Clinton, have you? *laughs*
And beecause you don't know anyone who's done well with this many kids, doesn't mean there isn't a way and you've just not interacted with it. Consider your POV - the only time you'd know is when something went wrong, neh? I've known families that had MORE children than this woman, everyone was 'self-employed' and that was that. The kids acquired a good work ethic early only - because that was the only way you got anything for yourself - went to school on scholarships and by and large, do pretty damn well.
(I just find it amusing that the Duggars are QUICK to tell anyone who asks that they are self-supporting. Because you know, they'd HAVE to be - just as a comparison. And then within 10 words on their website, tell you they're ALWAYS open to hearing from people who want a closer relationship with God. Riiiight.)
Considering also this is in California, it's pretty clear that NOBODY is going to get any services soon (go go gadget budget crisis) - so saying these guys are on the gravy train is pretty much a misnomer. They're going to get what they paid taxes for (like all of us), what they can provide for themselves (ditto) and what other people are willing to assist them with (natch).
If we get to be responsible for stupid choices, I can tell you about some drivers who needed to go to dipshit driver heaven for not knowing how to make lane changes and ended up messing up some cars and traffic and using up LOTS of taxpayers bucks for repairs to infrastructure, not to mention permanent disability support to some warm bodies. Is getting worked up over that going to help or make sense? Come on! (No, turning someone into a paraplegic isn't a one time gig, either.)
No, this is just an easy target for envy, frustration and blame. Nothing more, nothing less. And socially acceptable in the bargain!
(I just find it amazing that people who are screaming about how much this is costing 'them' are POURING money into other people's pockets with their interest, keeping the wheels turning on the advertising money machine. Just. Oblivious.)
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You haven't tried to get welfare since Clinton, have you? *laughs*
And beecause you don't know anyone who's done well with this many kids, doesn't mean there isn't a way and you've just not interacted with it. Consider your POV - the only time you'd know is when something went wrong, neh? I've known families that had MORE children than this woman, everyone was 'self-employed' and that was that. The kids acquired a good work ethic early only - because that was the only way you got anything for yourself - went to school on scholarships and by and large, do pretty damn well.
(I just find it amusing that the Duggars are QUICK to tell anyone who asks that they are self-supporting. Because you know, they'd HAVE to be - just as a comparison. And then within 10 words on their website, tell you they're ALWAYS open to hearing from people who want a closer relationship with God. Riiiight.)
Considering also this is in California, it's pretty clear that NOBODY is going to get any services soon (go go gadget budget crisis) - so saying these guys are on the gravy train is pretty much a misnomer. They're going to get what they paid taxes for (like all of us), what they can provide for themselves (ditto) and what other people are willing to assist them with (natch).
If we get to be responsible for stupid choices, I can tell you about some drivers who needed to go to dipshit driver heaven for not knowing how to make lane changes and ended up messing up some cars and traffic and using up LOTS of taxpayers bucks for repairs to infrastructure, not to mention permanent disability support to some warm bodies. Is getting worked up over that going to help or make sense? Come on! (No, turning someone into a paraplegic isn't a one time gig, either.)
No, this is just an easy target for envy, frustration and blame. Nothing more, nothing less. And socially acceptable in the bargain!
(I just find it amazing that people who are screaming about how much this is costing 'them' are POURING money into other people's pockets with their interest, keeping the wheels turning on the advertising money machine. Just. Oblivious.)