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[kyburg]

So far, that's what shaking out of the FL this morning -

odiedragon, do you know sunfell? She's got the goods for you today - frankly, for anyone if you really want to know.

Mean little girls on MySpace...have mean little shits for parents. WHO KNEW. I can tell you what I plan to teach my children. It doesn't matter if you think adults know what they're doing...if you thinks something smells, YOU TELL. Period. And how to tell the forks from the spoons.

I've been told about the people who live in this part of the country...and I believe it. They also think Ann Coulter is funny.

I'd wait until the teenage girl is of age...and then let fly. And frankly, anything that keeps a kid at the computer? Has to be followed up to reality - or discarded. A teenage child is...a child. And a guy interested in my teenage daughter - my just newly-minuted teenage daughter, no less? Boy, you'd better be real or else.

..

There are a buttload of people on my FL with my birthday. I am getting spammed right, left and center. (My birthday and beg button are on my profile. Go look.)

Shoulda known with all those Scorpios.

HAY. I have room for 126 icons. I've used 52 of them. Make me more. Happy birthday to me.

The rest of the day has been butts. Total butts.

Comments

[cahwyguy.livejournal.com]

Gee, someone else that reads the St. Louis papers.

Anyway, that's one of the reasons my daughter won't use MySpace. She's on a few theatre-based BBSs and RPG sites (that she administers, IIRC), and we did create her a Livejournal (which I have access to, although not many of her friends are on LJ). She has no interest in Facebook.

But I may show her that article. Good reading.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Jim, unclejimbo over here (darling husband) is from that part of the country. Oh very yes. I believe it.

I maintain to this day, I rescued him when he moved out here in 2000.

[cahwyguy.livejournal.com]

My mom's family is from St. Louis; in fact, I just got a good family friend to join LJ (ceotterfan). So I've added the Post Dispatch to the papers I scan (I scan Nashville as well, since the reunion).

[djdig.livejournal.com]

That's such a sad story. It brought tears to my eyes.

I am seriously debating deleting my myspace. (I only have it because of friends who refuse to use facebook or livejournal.)

[n6vfp.livejournal.com]

Scorpio.... my ex-wife was a Scorpio....but she wasn't like you...happy birthday...I'll try to make you a Hemet icon by next weekend...I'll look through my pictures.

[odiedragon.livejournal.com]

Interesing post. Thanks for the link. :)

[ionotter.livejournal.com]

That article touches on soooo very much of my experiences, and those experiences are one of the reasons I have deadly serious issues about vengance, justice and fairness.

I'm actually seeing a therapist over this sort of cruelty, because I was only a few steps shy of fitting a silencer to a rifle, making a ghillie suit and tapping a few people behind the ear through their kitchen window.

I hope this gives everyone a better idea of just how vicious children really are, and it doesn't matter how supervised they may be. If you think your kid shits sunshine, then you'll never see the blood on their hands.

[elizanikole.livejournal.com]

But it wasn't necessarily children who were vicious in this! It was ADULTS.. trusted GROWNUP adults.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Who are supposed to be doing the SUPERVISION. AUGH.

[elfwench.livejournal.com]

There are a buttload of people on my FL with my birthday.

All hail Valentine's Day conceptions! :D My mother was so embarrassed when I figured that out. And then started explaining that, well, at the time my father was home recuperating from Rheumatic Fever, bedfast. Somehow, that just made it worse. *chuckle*

[elizanikole.livejournal.com]

My god. My worst fears, realized by this family. How awful.

There's a special spot in hell for ANY adult who encouraged this sort of behavior.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

I would have been the one who told. I always Told. Always. If there is anything I would want my kids to know is that Mommy always TOLD on bad people, and Shit Happened. To them.

Oh very yes, it did.

[drlaurac.livejournal.com]

You are going to be such a kick-ass Mom!
That story was so sad, and all the blame lies with the mean grownups to mess with a teen like that.
I wish the teen years were different, I pray that by sharing what mine were like with my kids (and telling them how much better things got as I got older) that it may make them at least more tolerable, if not outright better.

[elizanikole.livejournal.com]

We *Regularly* discuss that not all adults are good, in fact, not all PEOPLE are good. And about good feelings and bad feelings, why we have bad feelings, about guilt...etc.

I hope and pray that it's the right thing and that they learn it's okay to tell and all that.

[yeoww.livejournal.com]

What a frightening story.

[sakuya-masaki.livejournal.com]

God, that is so horrible. That brought up so many horrid memories from that age of my life and really made me cry. Frankly, kids are so horrible to each other at that age that I'm not sure how anybody lives past 14. I know I just barely survived jr. high myself and it breaks my heart b/c so much of her situation sounded like me and what went on when I was in jr. high.
But for an adult to play a trick like this on a child? What a pile of human refuse she must be. I hope she and her daughter feel that guilt and shame for what they did all the days of their lives and I hope they live a long time so they can have plenty of time to feel it.

This is why I hate MySpace. I have one, but I haven't touched it in months. I don't know why I still have it up since I never go to it. It's just a magnet for awful things like this and for awful people. No teenager should be allowed on that site.

hmm, let's throw a little cold water on the fire

[nagasvoice.livejournal.com]

That newspaper account is such a strange story in so many respects.
There's the odd one-sided slant, and all the questions that weren't asked.
Yes, it really is slanted, if you consider that it pretty thoroughly sides with the parents of the girl who died. A lawyer for the other family would have fun with it.
It reads to me like a story designed to make readers go along with internet censorship, honestly. It does not truly address the concerns of other parents trying to protect their children, it doesn't suggest how they could do a better job in their own busy lives. It's just uselessly alarmist.
However, it is not slant to give the names of those involved. Why don't they name the person in this report, since all the names were public record in the police report?
The person who set up the fake story entangled a temp employee in this behavior, too. Why would any employee collaborate on something like this without getting the total heebie-jeebies about working for such a creepy person? Why didn't they report this to their own employer? It is, after all, fraud on the TOS on the MySpace website.

I'm sorry to say that, given how the fake-account mother was so unafraid of involving other people, I very much doubt she feels any remorse whatever. Some folks are just wired that way. And yes, if true as accused, then she may very well do something worse in future. Naming her and her family in the paper isn't going to stop whatever forces drove her to craziness of this kind. Let's call it what it is, crazy.

The movements of the dead girl's own parents on that day are odd and disconnected too. It's possible that the actions of people around a lot of suicides look odd just like this, but the press sure asked a lot more questions about Jon Benet Ramsey's circumstances.

Re: hmm, let's throw a little cold water on the fire

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Take a quick gander at this:

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20071112/4737ddd0_3ca6_1552620071112-409715364

The information is passing so quickly, so fast in some cases...some education is definitely indicated on how to manage it. And the sooner, the better. We're asking children to alert on information that could potentially kill - that's something we don't let most adults do.

Does that come under "censorship?"

In this case, rational adults in positions of authority - played what they perceived to be a harmless prank. Someone DIED.

You can get put in jail for killing someone driving a car drunk - even if it is unintentional, you kill someone...there are penalties.

This isn't about pr0n or someone's right to access.

Me, I'd have subpoenaed MySpace for the records. I'd have asked more questions. It's entirely possible all these steps were taken, and since there wasn't enough evidence to point directly AT the people in question...this is what you're left with.

A group of people where NO ONE could be identified. Except the dead.

At the very least, all the players know what happened. In all honesty, I believe that anyone who lays hands upon their own lives, is ultimately responsible for that act.

But to have someone play with a sick child's head that way - and let's not kid ourselves, that kid was so at risk, I would not have allowed internet access at all, let alone MySpace - knowingly, willingly and PROUD of it.

There are no words.

[ecstaticlght.livejournal.com]

That article has made me nauseous and tearful. I had a long pile of words typed, but it is just puking up the same old arguments that go round and around. For your birthday I will spare you those pointless statements.

And yes that is what you get for having a big old fun loving bunch of carnivorous bugs on your flist :)

[dame-of-dames.livejournal.com]

I always wondered what it would have been like to have had the internet access that we take for granted now, back when I was a teenager, in the mid 80's.

I do remember the Prodigy BB, but geez, it was nothing like this!