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I saw.

They took it out.

It's not approved yet. Go make some phone calls. I did.

And please, when it has to do with money - don't be surprised when it's going to be cut off, particularly when it's not popular.

(I must have gotten this one wrong. This State waiver option wasn't a burden on Medicaid - it was on the States, and looks to remain that way. Yeah, you can still get what you got before - you just have to file with your State to have the Medicaid objection waived. More bureacracy and the forms haven't run out yet, so.)

I saw the Florida program. Jeez. Expensive much?

Date: 2009-01-28 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrittenhouse.livejournal.com
*zooms over head*

Date: 2009-01-28 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purdypiedad.livejournal.com
I have no idea what you are talking about (though I'd like to if you care to elaborate), but I love your icon with all my heart. :-D

Date: 2009-01-28 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doki.livejournal.com
ditto clueless

Date: 2009-01-28 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimberlychapman.livejournal.com
I was clueless too but checked the comments. Great.

All of my Obama-lusty friends keep telling me we'll have great universal health care any day now. Shyah right. Not going to happen in this country any time soon. The public doesn't have the right attitude for it yet.

Date: 2009-01-28 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Not while we're this broke, hon. Not while we're this broke.

(At first blush, I thought this was removing a layer of bureacracy between fed and state regarding Medicaid. This is actually something of a misnomer - you *can* get BC with Medicaid if your state will allow you to file a waiver. What I thought they were doing was removing the waiver requirement. Less bureacracy=less money, neh? Not so much.)

Date: 2009-01-28 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doki.livejournal.com
Thanks. Sometimes I can figure out what you're talking about by scanning the headlines at CNN, but nothing struck me this time.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muimi07.livejournal.com
People want universal healthcare until they realize that someone needs to pay for it. Personally I'd love it and would gladly pay for it but you're right -- attitude isn't there.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
What I thought they were doing was removing the waiver requirement. Less bureacracy=less money, neh? Not so much

?? They ARE only removing the waiver requirement. It's a stupid requirement.

Also, distributing more BC WOULD be less money because the consequences of poor women not having birth control is unwanted, state-supported children. This would PREVENT an estimated $700 million in costs!

Date: 2009-01-28 11:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Singing to the choir here, hon. I made my phone calls - and it is GREAT TEH STOOPID. Totally agreed.

But it will shut some people up when they want to bash Obama saying he hates babies and all that. No change - no additional money - no shift on policy.

And people can still get their stuff, same as before.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
I see more money going into Medicaid - which is the only single-payer plan at the federal level we have. It's a start - and I think it's going to take baby steps. With babies. Seriously.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
But it will shut some people up when they want to bash Obama saying he hates babies and all that.

they're going to say that anyway! There is NO POINT in pandering to the pro-lifers!


No change - no additional money - no shift on policy.

there will be additional money - because the bc would save money.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Unsubstatiated - come on, you know this one.

Pandering? No. Shut the fuck up, yes.

And you can still get the BC - with the expensive layer of bullcrap bureaucracy they all know and love.

But I'm with you - I'd have rather skipped this one.

Date: 2009-01-28 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimberlychapman.livejournal.com
Yup. Having lived most of my life in Canada and then the last 9 years in the US, I can attest that there's a different way of looking at it. Americans ask, "Why should I pay for everyone else?" while Canadians say, "I'm so glad everyone else is paying for me!" Canadians aren't any more altruistic, they just see it as their benefit more than something they pay for.

I'd gladly pay for it here. We pay wayyyyyyyyyyy more in premiums, copays, deductibles, and non-covered in one year than I paid in taxes my entire adult life in Canada (not that I made much money so I didn't pay much taxes, but that's kind of the point).

Date: 2009-01-28 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
And you can still get the BC - with the expensive layer of bullcrap bureaucracy they all know and love.

not really. Because some states have been on the waiver waiting list for TWO YEARS.

Date: 2009-01-29 12:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
I know, I know. The fact this medication is used for all kinds of OTHER things besides BC doesn't help any, neh?

I made my calls. It's not over yet. And no, ain't happy about it - but as they say, it's good to want. Builds character and all that.

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