*sigh*

[kyburg]

Guys, where does this post belong?

There must be a pro-choice, abortiondebate, pro-life something out there that can have a field day. Note, I didn't say fun.

She makes some good points. One of the sharpest, though she doesn't name it specifically, is that most people involved in caring for babies could care less about the women who bear them.

The baby has a home; the mother is homeless. Rru?

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[browren.livejournal.com]

There's quite a few debate-type communities on LJ that'd probably have some things to say, abortiondebate is one, just hit the LJ homepage and do a search for abortion as an interest.

It's sad, though - I wonder if the people taking those kids away from their mother and leaving her on the street think of it as some kind of punishment. I'd love to hear the justifications they use to make it okay in their minds... >_

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

I think that's exactly the point.

[inagawayuu.livejournal.com]

OMG WTF!1! Browren!!! I didn't know you had an LJ too!!! It's me! Psi!!

*points proudly to his icon* I drew that!!! *is, like, floored and happy*

[browren.livejournal.com]

Heh, small internet, isn't it? ;) Added you back, btw.

You might want to check out my friends list, there may be some other names you recognise... :)

[auntiesiannan.livejournal.com]

send her over to abortiondebate. excellent example of how women are only considered vessels.

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[forestcats.livejournal.com]

To criticize the people who take in the babies of these homeless girls for not doing enough for the birth mother is not completely accurate.

These teens are risk takers and historically rule breakers. Not even addressing alcohol or drug issues. The girls choices are directly related to the pregnancy and child. Playing ostrich with their fertility points out that they haven't formed an internal value system that would hold an innocent babe before their own selfishness. These girls often have hurt family relationships and trust to the level that their own family can't afford to take on further risk by opening their homes once again to this teen. Perhaps it makes for more media drama or intrigue to assume that these families don't care, weren't there, or are heartless to the teen. We don't see journals on LJ of 2nd time parents who are rearing their grandchildren perhaps because of the nature of LJ or the maturity of the grandparents who aren't all angsty and dramatic, or because they are actually busy with caring for these kids and just don't have time to re-educate the masses to the other side of the story.

These girls are homeless, yes that is a shame, but are they learning that this is the result of their own choices? I'm starting to volunteer with teens in a foster care home, these kids aren't poor darlings, they are adept manipulators and attention seekers who are operating trying to change the environment to suit their desires. Personal growth has very different behaviors and these kids are offered systems to help them work in this path yet the vast majority aren't working the system or program they are typically scheming to find loop holes around the straight path.

The majority of people don't make choices that end with them being homeless, people who end up homeless have played both active and passive rolls to become homeless. I know this because I was homeless at 16. My parents are both alcoholics and one night too many my mother tried to kill me in my sleep. I chose to leave and live with a boyfriend who I knew was into drugs. His actions got us kicked out of his sisters home and living in the Hollywood hills & beaches. Lots of no fun. I didn't choose to turn to my grandparents because I knew the physical violence their daughter could be turned against them. 24 years in the future I'm a college educated home owning person, LOL who knew?

Life helps those who help themselves. Blaming the people who are rearing the babies of these poor decision makers is being manipulated subtly to believe that the teens aren't responsible for their actions. If they aren't then who is?