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So we'll do some catch up.

Lj'er [livejournal.com profile] ginmar's wordcount has multiplied by a factor of 10 since she returned from Iraq - something I'm grateful for,
with posts like this one - particularly when a Google on California this morning turned up some links that compliment that post on "Father's Rights" groups.

Child Maltreatment Figures are out for 2002.

This site allows you to form reports on injury mortality and nonfatal injury for a wide range of age groups.(WISQARS)

Injury Maps. No, go look - it's pretty useful.

In short - question authority. Whoever that authority sets themselves up to be.

Date: 2005-04-18 07:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] technoshaman.livejournal.com
In short - question authority. Whoever that authority sets themselves up to be.

Amen. Every time somebody comes out with a new study with some off-the-wall result, I always ask, "Well, who the hell paid for that?"

Question authority? Hell, question reality. Sure, there's only so far you can get with that, but still. Just because X authority figure says it's so, doesn't mean it's not a load of bovine scatology. We all know that from the Vacationer-in-Chief.

Date: 2005-04-18 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kali-ma.livejournal.com
Hi... I added you back.

Date: 2005-04-18 08:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Welcome! Hope you don't get bored -

Date: 2005-04-18 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
I don't think men should be forced to pay child support. Women aren't forced to keep or pay for children they don't want.

Date: 2005-04-18 08:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Loaded.

If there are children, there were two people who participated in getting them here.

And frankly, women still don't make as much as men - and frankly, in today's ecomony, it does take two incomes to raise kids. You can do it on one - but brother, that's a struggle and a calling.

If you want kids and can't afford them, that's a rotten way to justify child support after they're here - you're right there.

However, after the end of a marriage? The end of a relationship?

Takes two to tango, pay to raise a child, and to deep-fry a turkey.

(And yes, we really could do a better job of making it happen - and fair.)

Date: 2005-04-18 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
However, after the end of a marriage? The end of a relationship?

Sure - at that point you're in it. I'd even say that men should have to pay if they supported the pregnancy till after the time when a woman could have an abortion.

But I think that early in pregnancy they should be able to opt out.

Date: 2005-04-18 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
One wishes; however, with today's CW? Fuggetaboutit.

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