That what YOU say! Nuh HUH! Nuh UH! Nuh HUH!

[kyburg]

Up until now, the federal government followed the definition of pregnancy accepted by the American Medical Association and our nation's pregnancy experts, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, which is: pregnancy begins at implantation. With this proposal, however, HHS is dismissing medical experts and opting instead to accept a definition of pregnancy based on polling data. It now claims that pregnancy begins at some biologically unknowable moment (there's no test to determine if a woman's egg has been fertilized). Under these new standards there would be no way for a woman to prove she's not pregnant. Thus, any woman could be denied contraception under HHS' new science.

Yup. Let's rebrand contraception as MOIDER.

I've already stated - at length - just why I have the stance on the whole 'partial-birth abortion' issue I do (it's a scam...it's as bad as you think, as bad as ANYONE would think, and nobody used it outside a courtroom dossier, gimme a break here) - but this is just pure spite, poured on 'we're stupid and we're proud of it.'

Nothing more.

It's a definition - and tied to getting help from the government (which is US, after all, you me and the guy across the room). Really not the place for it. An abortion is a very invasive, no-doubt-about-it medical procedure with very directed results towards a verfied, really really, no doubt about it, pregnancy.

That's the only defintion I will ever accept. The rest is blowing smoke, and Johnny tattling on Bobby who doesn't close his eyes during prayer...and what were YOU doing Johnny, during prayer that you noticed this? I dunno?!

What a waste.

Comments

[caitlin.livejournal.com]

I have this odd feeling... that the so called "secret" memo? Was deliberately leaked.

Why?

Flag pole. (I can explain if you like)

Or maybe I'm just THAT cynical. (who me?)

C.

[sekl.livejournal.com]

Wait, pregnancy begins at the moment of fertilization, not implantation? So, a woman who has eggs fertilized and frozen before undergoing cancer treatment is technically pregnant for 5-10 years?

[grumble]I'm all for asking people how they feel about things, but I'm not sure science gives a damn. If HHS really cared about reducing abortion rates, they should step up the access to birth control, not cause anyone extra headaches. [/grumble]

[audacian.livejournal.com]

I'm with you on this - Now whatever is actually passed will be accepted, graciously, since at least it isn't as bad as it was.

[cecerose.livejournal.com]

Two words to the Feds: "Bite Me."

Just one more reason to help get Obama elected.

In case you want to tell them what you think of their regs...

[n6vfp.livejournal.com]

The contact information for the HHS secretary is:

HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt
Office Phone: 202-690-7000 or 202-205-4708
Email: mike.leavitt@hhs.gov
Fax: 202-690-7203
Correspondence Secretary: 202-690-6392

Anyone outside of the DC/metro area can call 877-696-6775 toll-free and ask to be transferred to the Secretary's office.

[djdig.livejournal.com]

So, I'm killing my non-existent children?!

Scary man!

[ms-hecubus.livejournal.com]

You should go post this in childfree and watch the fireworks. They get bent out of shape because doctors generally consider all women of a certain age possibly pregnant to be on the safe side. I think some heads would explode if they knew they couldn't prove they're not.

That doesn't mean I'm not boggling at the stupidity in that definition.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Oh, they'd laugh me out of the room - I like the little 'crotch droppings' too much.

You go ahead - this stuff needs to be spread like fertilizer.

[moropus.livejournal.com]

I did take 4 semesters of biology and anatomy at the 3 colleges I dropped out of. I wonder if they have any idea how many fertilized eggs just don't make it. You could 'miscarry' every time you have a period by this standard.

[gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com]

I don't know why you are so upset. I mean, we're just women - we couldn't possibly know what's best for our health or when we want to have babies, if at all.

goddammit why didn't i get my tubes tied back when i had a real job

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

But it would be NAT-CHURL!

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

What I love best about that piece? Worthy quoted was ACOG - who I've had direct contact with as an organization.

Cautious, conservative to a fault - and not stupid. The members may have their own politics, but you check those at the door - because, well, uh science much? Getting down to the truth much? Dealing with reality much?

What truly infuriates me the most about this is the willful intent to thrust heads up the ankles in the sand. Really really.