My Catholics should be able to tell me -

[kyburg]

And I want the real deal, not an opinion - please do your research.

Did they excommunicate this guy?

His body of work is getting closer scrutiny right now, as you might expect.

The wiki don't say.

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[kyburg.livejournal.com]

As expected - the Right People have to decide if something is within reason or not.

Not the individual, provided with some food for thought.

And also, as I have said - there is a belief for every person's comfort level. If you want to be Right - and be certain of it with your conformity to what your reasonable authority has set in front of you - be Catholic. You can peform penance after rite after reconciliation...to the nth degree...and there is an answer for every question, check your catechism. You DID memorize your catechisms?

People being the inherently fallible things they are - can also do a whole lotta damage with the 'you're not whatever enough to be the Real Thing.' (Not going there today. There are a bunch of Protestant groups that claim they've done their homework as well - and haven't - and then lie like bad rugs to cover it up when someone catches up with them. Mean people. And we all know mean people suck.)

I'm far more comfortable where I am - which is firmly in the "only thing I can be sure of is that I can be wrong" camp. No matter what stance I take, or conclusion I come to. I will always have incomplete information. I will always be fallible 12% of the time, minimum. Am I wrong about this today? Could be! I'll let God figure it out and let me know in time if it's really all that important. And I'm confident that it will be made clear to me if it is.

So you can imagine what I think of a whole group of people - all different - whose stock in trade is We Are Always Right. We have a lot in common, mind - particularly on the most important parts, in my opinion. But. They aren't comfortable unless they're surrounded by people who share the exact same education, repeat it verbatim on demand and are willing to condemn outright those who can't, won't or frankly don't find it that critical. Me? I know I might be wrong, regardless. I can repeat a number of teachings, point out where most of them dovetail (oh dead ghad, you should hear the hue and cry when that happens - you should have seen the room of Pure Land Buddhists and Downtown LA Catholics that lovely afternoon), and just about every time, repeat that I won't define my faith by exclusion. Because I have room for them - even if they don't have room for me. I think that's better - pretty clear, neh?

I'm being handed some historical evidence from a pretty reasonable source that contradicts some of that unchanging Rightness. As in - maybe it's not been so unchanging, regardless of the rest it implies. Do I have to be one of those Right People for it to be considered? Guess so.

*shrugs* Guess God needs a heretic. That's why I'm here. ^^

[bitpig.livejournal.com]

One thing we can be sure of is that God will judge us all justly. May He have mercy on our souls.

"Shall not the Judge of all the Earth do right?" (Genesis 18:25).