I can't get NO....satisfaction....
Feb. 10th, 2009 09:00 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
kyburgLet's see.
You don't need to take Jim's word for it anymore. Even down to the names...which he was a good boy about and didn't tell anyone about either.
Hooray! (And so much for Tiajuana Taxi Fertility Hookups.) Note the words 'there is no law against...' - this is a evaluation by peers, and I hope we find out what they decide. But keep in mind - there is no law, and this won't create one. (Consider what the enforcement of one might look like, BTW. Just think about it for a moment, it'll come to you.)
Let me get this straight. When the McCaughey septuplets were born in 1997, President Clinton called to congratulate the parents, who were given a free 12-passenger van, Pampers for life, furniture, food, and a custom built house. Last spring, when Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar got pregnant with their 18th child, they announced it on the Today Show and their reality TV show launched that fall. When Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth to octuplets on January 26th, she got revulsion, ridicule and death threats. A talk radio host who called her a freak said his listeners were prepared to boycott any company that helped out mother or babies. Jimmy Kimmel declared that "Golden retrievers do not have that many kids."
Uh, yawp. Single, POC and oh mi ghad IRAQI. SPICY.
(You know, I'd almost expect some people to have a little empathy for people who have somewhat toxic parents....but noooooo. Guess not.) And before you hit that comment button - keep in mind. The lady had choices. Since we see more of the grandfather doing childcare publically than the grandmother, you figure it out. Watch the grandkids leave that house Real Soon. As soon as enough money shows up - and it will show up. (Just keep making those death threats on all those sponsored websites, kids!)
Quick quiz.
Who administers 'food stamp' programs?
- Department of the Treasury
- Department of Homeland Security
- The Internal Revenue Service
- Department of Agriculture (*dingdingding*)
Also, the going term is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - not food stamps. Note the key word - there is no intention for this ever to be the sole support for anyone. (I love the fact they've moved it off paper and to electronic ATM card. No, you can't pool the change from buying a candy bar with a coupon until you can buy liquor anymore. Too bad. *snickers*)
Oh yeah, $490 a month is a REAL GOOD incentive to have a kid. (...where do people get this crap...) And of course you top out, regardless of the number of people in the household.
Defend her? Not so much. What I find amazing is the vitriol where in just about every other case I know of, there was nothing but cooes and praise for being 'so absolutely PERFECTLY FEMALE' for being, well - successful at being female. That's it, isn't it? The pastel pinks and blues, the heft of the rewards thrown, the fairy tale twittering. The strokes - oh yes - THE STROKES.
(I'm catching echoes of it adopting right now, and I know it when I see it. It's perceived sainthood and I'm hip. I got much the same when I was the wife of a terminal patient. It's not helpful, except as a signal that they're not going to bitchslap you.)
I'm glad information is getting out. It's making our lives easier not having to keep our mouths shut. (How many times does WE CAN'TALK make sense?)
What I'm watching for? Terminations at the hospital of people who were peeking into health records when they had no reason to. Yeah, it's all electronic, all tagged with who was doing the peeking and we've had plenty of evidence there's a zero tolerance policy for fraud - though I think Kaiser might handle these a bit differently after a whole family died when both parents were fired for it. Remember - same hospital system.
Whatta parade. Can we talk about Sully instead?
You don't need to take Jim's word for it anymore. Even down to the names...which he was a good boy about and didn't tell anyone about either.
Hooray! (And so much for Tiajuana Taxi Fertility Hookups.) Note the words 'there is no law against...' - this is a evaluation by peers, and I hope we find out what they decide. But keep in mind - there is no law, and this won't create one. (Consider what the enforcement of one might look like, BTW. Just think about it for a moment, it'll come to you.)
Let me get this straight. When the McCaughey septuplets were born in 1997, President Clinton called to congratulate the parents, who were given a free 12-passenger van, Pampers for life, furniture, food, and a custom built house. Last spring, when Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar got pregnant with their 18th child, they announced it on the Today Show and their reality TV show launched that fall. When Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth to octuplets on January 26th, she got revulsion, ridicule and death threats. A talk radio host who called her a freak said his listeners were prepared to boycott any company that helped out mother or babies. Jimmy Kimmel declared that "Golden retrievers do not have that many kids."
Uh, yawp. Single, POC and oh mi ghad IRAQI. SPICY.
(You know, I'd almost expect some people to have a little empathy for people who have somewhat toxic parents....but noooooo. Guess not.) And before you hit that comment button - keep in mind. The lady had choices. Since we see more of the grandfather doing childcare publically than the grandmother, you figure it out. Watch the grandkids leave that house Real Soon. As soon as enough money shows up - and it will show up. (Just keep making those death threats on all those sponsored websites, kids!)
Quick quiz.
Who administers 'food stamp' programs?
- Department of the Treasury
- Department of Homeland Security
- The Internal Revenue Service
- Department of Agriculture (*dingdingding*)
Also, the going term is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - not food stamps. Note the key word - there is no intention for this ever to be the sole support for anyone. (I love the fact they've moved it off paper and to electronic ATM card. No, you can't pool the change from buying a candy bar with a coupon until you can buy liquor anymore. Too bad. *snickers*)
Oh yeah, $490 a month is a REAL GOOD incentive to have a kid. (...where do people get this crap...) And of course you top out, regardless of the number of people in the household.
Defend her? Not so much. What I find amazing is the vitriol where in just about every other case I know of, there was nothing but cooes and praise for being 'so absolutely PERFECTLY FEMALE' for being, well - successful at being female. That's it, isn't it? The pastel pinks and blues, the heft of the rewards thrown, the fairy tale twittering. The strokes - oh yes - THE STROKES.
(I'm catching echoes of it adopting right now, and I know it when I see it. It's perceived sainthood and I'm hip. I got much the same when I was the wife of a terminal patient. It's not helpful, except as a signal that they're not going to bitchslap you.)
I'm glad information is getting out. It's making our lives easier not having to keep our mouths shut. (How many times does WE CAN'TALK make sense?)
What I'm watching for? Terminations at the hospital of people who were peeking into health records when they had no reason to. Yeah, it's all electronic, all tagged with who was doing the peeking and we've had plenty of evidence there's a zero tolerance policy for fraud - though I think Kaiser might handle these a bit differently after a whole family died when both parents were fired for it. Remember - same hospital system.
Whatta parade. Can we talk about Sully instead?
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Date: 2009-02-10 06:19 pm (UTC)The Duggars, while I don't agree with their lifestyle, at least generally have their babies one at a time. With two parents (not knocking the single- just someone to share the work load with), and by the time kid #10 was born, kid #1 could read, write, dress himself, and help out around the house. By the time kid #18 was born, kids #1, #2, #3, and #4 were not kids anymore.
This woman has 14 kids, 8 of whom are likely to be very high needs, all under the age of 8- her mom is leaving, her dad is going to Iraq to earn money- and she's alone taking care of all of them. It's sick, and it WRONG to do to those kids. They are the ones who have to pay for her choices- THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET. Her choice was deliberate and selfish.
Are those "old" photos like Dr. Gupta's quote was old? Because of 8 babies, I count at LEAST 4 feeding tubes, and we can't even totally see all of their mouths.
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Date: 2009-02-10 07:35 pm (UTC)So easily led. *shakes head* Question Authority, hon. Everywhere it lurks, in whatever guise it cloaks itself.
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Date: 2009-02-10 11:42 pm (UTC)Show me, anywhere, anything about 1.5lb babies, with iugr, 9 weeks early taking bottles.
Oh, and before you call me a sheep again, I was the one saying, "Wow, those reports are wrong about the babies taking bottles."
How many NICU hours have you logged? How much fetal development have you studied?
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Date: 2009-02-11 12:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-11 02:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-11 02:35 am (UTC)You're quick to accuse people of self-inflicted trauma. And you're also quick to be led around by anyone with the SHINY stick. It's trying to figure out why these things are so appealing that confounds me.
You've heard this from other people. Just remember - I'm the one who isn't afraid of seeing you annoyed with me. Friends are like that. *winks*