My personal take -

[kyburg]

So three, maybe four states, are certain they can outlaw a medical procedure.

I'm curious to see how they plan to enforce it. Really. I'm old enough to remember the world before Roe v. Wade, and I have a mother who was a medical professional since 1942. They patched up the women who presented after the illegal abortions they obtained - if they were done improperly, of course - they had entire wards devoted to the problem.

You heard more about the victims than anyone who actually did the procedures, of course.

I grew up with the idea that if I didn't want to be faced with the issue of abortion, I needed to not get in the position of desiring one.

I was the girl who sat on the edge of the theater seat if a boy put his arm around me.

I never dated. I never attended a school dance, a prom or a party. Of any kind.

I learned to wear makeup in theater arts class - and it was stage makeup. Street makeup? No. To this day, I don't wear *anything* on a daily basis, not even lip gloss.

I lost my virginity at 24, married the fellow at 25 and had no other sex partners until my current husband.

When it came time to be certified by DCFS for adoption, they had concerns about us because they didn't think we were "intimate" correctly and sent us to therapy.

Careful doesn't begin to cut it.

And no, I've never thought anyone had to do what I did to be "moral." It was what I decided to do - a personal choice.

I also know that there is more than one reason to terminate a pregnancy - some of them entire valid for the safety of the woman, and the possibility of future children down the road.

So. You want to make it illegal.

Roll the clock back.

Okay.

Put back all the homes for wayward teens and unwed mothers. Put back the reasonable adoption statues that would allow placements. Make money available for public adoption agencies to house, feed and care for women who want to place their children, but don't want to deal with a private agency that has an agenda. They existed. They don't, anymore. Make it possible for women to complete pregnancies safely - make it illegal to evict, starve or refuse health care to a pregnant woman. Make it illegal to fire one.

C'mon. This is just the start, huh? Let's make the whole abortion industry die of starvation. C'mon.

What.

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You make it such a crime to have a working female gender. It makes you kind of want to have your tits removed and your zorch sewn shut. Paying me 25% less over a lifetime wasn't enough, huh?

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[sunfell.livejournal.com]

If these forced-birthers have their way, we should enact laws that add taxes to pay for the upbringing of the unwanted children, and lifeling medical care for the mothers who were forced to bring malformed or nonviable babies to term.

There are real reasons for late term abortions. Hydrocelaphy. Anencephaly. Sirenesis. Cyclopia. Limb-body wall malformations. Acardial twins.

There are websites with illustrations that will give you nightmares. They used to call such errors 'monsters'.

I don't think we should have our tits removed, or our undercarriages sewn shut. We should instead start punishing men. Make the men feel the pain. Hit them in the pocketbook, make them scared to slip the seeds into a fertile female. Make them pay the price. It takes two to tango.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

That's exactly what the government of Switzerland did to its population - they put it to them. If you want to outlaw abortion, you have to pay for the outcome. Or - you can okay it up to a point and not take the hit for it.

What do you think they did?

80% of a 30% catholic country voted in favor of legalized abortion up to 12 weeks gestation. Period.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Make them PAY?! Don't make me laugh.

You try to collect child support. Go ahead.

[kuangning]

Amen to that. They couldn't get Richard to show up in court at all, couldn't even FIND him, let alone extract child support from him. Robin's paying but only because they already had him after promising him sole custody once I was out of the way.

[moropus.livejournal.com]

Make who pay? My sister has had so many men, she doesn't even know who the father of one of them is. She's not alone in this. Every watch Maury try to help the find their baby's daddy?