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[kyburg]

I've heard all about the Korean nuclear test. One story, only one - refers to outside verification by Richter scale. But not by who.

Folks, I lived too many years with Soviet rhetoric to believe anything without outside verification. You remember those days, right? When we heard "yeah we did THIS and we did THAT and we DID DID DID" and you couldn't believe it and when something really DID happen (Chernobyl), it was found out by radiation readings outside the Soviet Union and Eastern Bloc countries a day or so afterward.

"Underground, no leakage" - suuuure. Something like that had to do something readable by someone nearby, oh say - South Korea?

Anyone gotten anything from that source to confirm?

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[vampireanneke.livejournal.com]

Yes, the news reported it as being a place in australia that confirmed the quake.

[sputnik.livejournal.com]

It's going to take some time to analyze the earthquake signature data. There is a difference between a conventional explosive and a nuclear explosive shockwave.

[feyandstrange.livejournal.com]

I'd been wondering that myself - thanks for hitting the nail smack on the ass there. I could've sworn that we'd get 24-48 hour confirms on these things during the Cold War; surely we haven't turned off all those damn monitors? Plus every quake monitor in the Pacific Rim? My understanding was that the shockwaves are very different and fairly easy to spot. Plus satellite monitoring? Plus radiation? Why don't we have better bloody data here? We can't have been totally ignoring all that phallic bomb-waving, can we? Grr.

Please post if you get a proper confirm; I'm hip-deep in packing boxes ahd haven't had time to keep up with stuff, but that one really makes me want to know.

[http://users.livejournal.com/jade_/]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6033893.stm

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

That's better than what I had - but I'm not impressed? Is that a good way to describe it?

[hobbitblue.livejournal.com]

Japan had seismograph readouts that showed a blip at the correct time, and there'd been reports of pits and things being dug in the general area.. something was exploded, its assumed to be nuclear, whether or not its something powerful enough to be a threat to other nations still seems unclear.

I'm a bit better informed on this than usual as I happend to have Channel 4 News on this evening which gives in-depth coverage of such things with lots of data, expert reports and unbiased editorial (well, reasonably unbiased), better than the BBC. Not sure if there's any way you could watch the full programme, there are video clips here but how much you get, I don't know..

[spydielives.livejournal.com]

Is this the earthquake news reports are referring to?

There is this news report: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/manawatustandard/0,2106,3823422a6408,00.html,

as well as this data at USGS Earthquake Center:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/ustqab.php (From the front page, zoom in North Korea until you get there)

Earthquake Details
Magnitude 4.2 (Light)
# Date-Time Monday, October 9, 2006 at 01:35:27 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
# Monday, October 9, 2006 at 10:35:27 AM
= local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 41.294°N, 129.134°E
Depth 0 km (~0 mile) set by location program
Region NORTH KOREA
Distances 70 km (40 miles) N of Kimchaek, North Korea
90 km (55 miles) SW of Chongjin, North Korea
180 km (115 miles) S of Yanji, Jilin, China
385 km (240 miles) NE of PYONGYANG, North Korea
Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 9.6 km (6.0 miles); depth fixed by location program
Parameters Nst= 17, Nph= 17, Dmin=371.4 km, Rmss=0.86 sec, Gp= 83°,
M-type=body magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID ustqab

* This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.