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I think atheists are, generally speaking, a bunch of obnoxious, know-it-all, elitist, emotionally stunted assholes.

But he makes his point SO well - it's irresistible.

For me? Atheists confound me. To me, to completely disregard all the mysteries beyond what you can sense with your eyes and ears is pretty - hm - sad? I've envied [livejournal.com profile] yzzy her insight (and to be honest, [livejournal.com profile] unclejimbo has a good portion of it as well), but I do twig on occasion to something 'not here,' mostly in graveyards and if it hadn't happened to me, I'd not likely believe it at all.

But there you go. No, I didn't go looking for it either.

Christian, largely because that's how I was raised - and stay that way not by exclusion of other beliefs, but including them along with my own because they hold value in and of themselves as well. Hardly limited to the fundamentals.

He's pretty pointed, to be honest - but I just sat there and laughed so hard this morning, I couldn't resist.
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There is no way to demonstrate that anything outside ourselves exists at all. Materialism is a belief system, and has at its foundation a series of unproven (and unprovable) assumptions just as any belief system does.

I've studied philosophy long enough to know that the old "parable of the cave"-style arguments are largely worthless. If there is no objective reality, then everything that philosophers spend so much time debating - morality and the origins of existance, in particular - is completely meangingless, as it's nothing more than one individual's pontifications about this imaginary reality they've constructed. Who cares what Plato thinks about the relative merits of the puppets in his head? If reality is only subjective, then the only opinion that matters is mine, I can demand that the sky is green and the sea is red, and boom, suddenly I'm God because I have a good imagination.

Then I get hit by a bus, and objective reality continues on its merry way, not giving a shit what I thought. :P

Anyway, I don't think asking for proof - scientific, or otherwise - is outside the bounds of Christianity. Thomas got to stick his fingers in the holes; why is it unfair for someone else to want the same level of certainty?

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