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May. 1st, 2007 05:29 pm
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Yeah, [livejournal.com profile] ginmar is just talking out her ass when she talks (with one of the largest word counts in the biz) about male entitlement cropping up in the oddest of places -

Folks, it does come in handy that 'kyburg' is as sexless as a stick of chewing gum. Yes, I do get asked on a daily basis if I want my peener to be bigger - oh well. They don't know, it ain't up to me to tell them.

If you don't think I have IP logging on - and have had it on since day one - you're kidding yourself. And oh very yes, I know how to track you back to where you live - and work - and you have the rest.

I tattle. OH DO I.

Would I waste my time with LJ Support? Well, I'd open the ticket for documentation - but don't think I'd stop there.

I also have a history of giving people who threaten me a wild time. Over stuff like this? It would be a pleasure. Violence? Please - that's the last resort for incompetents.

They can laugh. I won't quit - and I can be a PIA if I have to be.

Trolling is a lot like graffiti in a forum like this one - yeah, you can post it. But I can delete it. Every last one, every last time. Without a single bit of remorse. And then screen everything else - and I only have to look at it if I want to. I can delete it out of my inbox without reading it, yanno.

So if you think that showing me dirty pictures is going to - uh - DO anything to me?

C'mon. I'm expecting it. Like dog shit in the wet grass, chewing gum on my shoe and science experiments in the refrigerator. It happens.

Now - if I couldn't manage my own blog to remove offensive bullcrap? WHO THE HECK OWNS THIS THING ANYWAY YAR. This is my space - so guess what. I make the rules, and I say make nice while you're here. Couldn't do that?

Wouldn't bother. Nothings worth that.

Date: 2007-05-02 01:48 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-05-02 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com
I have a friend who's been getting some pretty vile threats from a local guy. It's pretty viscious stuff.

These assholes think that because their victim is female she can't or won't fight back. Fry 'em.

Date: 2007-05-02 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djdig.livejournal.com
DJDIG is pretty sexless too and I get the same male enhancement e-mails that make me laugh.

Date: 2007-05-02 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] betnoir.livejournal.com
I gave up on [livejournal.com profile] ginmar long ago, not just because of her excessive wordcount, but her very rigid ideas of what a feminist is and isn't.

And I clearly don't fit her ideas, so...

As for the WP story itself, much as it seriously pains me to be in agreement with Michelle Malkin on...well...anything...she has the right of this one.

The worst thing one can do is let oneself be silenced.

Date: 2007-05-02 05:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-05-03 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dudemungus.livejournal.com
Yeah, I mean I've never heard of Michelle Malkin before, but she has a point--if you let jerks scare you out of speaking your mind, you're just giving them more power to do it again. Also, i think it's a responsibility of men to step up when they see it happening. A woman shouldn't feel alone in this.

Date: 2007-05-09 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Then how come you're such an asshole when people gang up on me? Hm? Did I miss something in your philosophy? Or could it be that you just lack the moral courage to put principle to gray life? Life's not all black and white, fetus.

Date: 2007-05-07 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Wow, that's stupid. Letting yourself be silenced by credible threats? No wonder I dropped you. People posted Kathy Sierra's address and picture.
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It's like meeting bigfoot!

Date: 2007-05-09 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dudemungus.livejournal.com
I love you. You are the best thing about the internet! I have read your rants all over the place, and your output is a thing of amazement! You dropped me? Did we date? You aren't that Asian lady from the second cup are you? because we talked all about that, and I thought we were cool.

I wasn't talking to you, asswipe

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You don't know me

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Date: 2007-05-02 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turandot.livejournal.com
I take this stuff with a grain of salt too, but... In the case of Kathy Sierra it wasn't just obscene pictures and comments: one of the trolls on the sites that were targeting her for scorn posted her home address on the web (the maintainers of those sites have since removed it) following some vague threats of harm.

I had somewhat of a similar experience 10 years ago. Basically some fundie troll on a bbs posting information for other trolls about where I went to school and lived at the time, exhorting other fundies to track me down. It scared the fuck out of me, so that I haven't posted contact information other than e-mail (and sometimes not even that) publicly on any site i've ever had or associated with.

I would be as freaked out with having anonymous persons know where to find me as she turned out to be, but I have the luxury of choosing not to disseminate that info because I have no need to maintain an official web presence for professional purposes. Kathy Sierra had no such luxury. For better or worse, she works in an industry where a lot of techies and net heads would know how to track her down, which is why it was pretty fucking scary for her to know that not only were there anonymous assholes out there who wished her harm, but that they deliberately provided information about where she lived to someone else stupid or crazy enough to try.

Date: 2007-05-02 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turandot.livejournal.com
OTOH, I don't know that it helps anything to verbally assault any guy who expresses an unsolicited opinion about electronics to you in a store. I find it's a lot more effective (not to mention fun) to get them started on their equipment rant, and then interrupt them midway to asked them questions that demostrate that I understand the technology just as well as they do (I know more about computers than the average non tech head, but I sort of stumbled into it).

Moreover there are guys who'll always know more than me about technology because it's part livelyhood/obsession for them. I married one such guy, and so I can attest to the fact that some guys don't proffer their opinions to be assholes or to demostrate their superiority over non tech heads, they just can't help talking about electronic gadgets to anyone within earshot anymore than an auto enthusiast can stop talking about cars. =P

Date: 2007-05-07 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Did you ignore all the women talking about the same thing or was that accidental?

Date: 2007-05-02 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moropus.livejournal.com
Regardless of her mental illness, Ginmar makes everything about sexism. Even before she became ill, she saw sexism everywhere. She doesn't want equality, she wants females to be blatantly superior. I once disagreed with her and got a mysterious nameless threat hoping my health would decline rapidly. I showed it to a tech inclined coworker. Draw your own conclusions.

Just to clear the air, the VA is not the evil beast she makes them out to be. I get weekly head shrinkage and Friday I am having a minor foot operation. I also see them about my bad knees pretty often. They are overworked and underpaid. If she gives them the attitude she gives us, I'm not surprised to see some passive aggressive foot-dragging in her case. They've always been super to me. They are doing what they can with a bad budget and a constant supply of new, seriously ill patients.

Date: 2007-05-02 05:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
I can vouch for the inconsistency in care between VA facilities - I've had dealings with two of them in California, and Jim got his clinical at the one near him in Illinois back in the day. OH - and where his mother got the worst care for depression I have as a yardstick for comparison to non-VA care right now. (Over-medicated, no other therapy besides drugs and they missed the underlying medical condition causing it in the first place.)

That's my experience, and I was never in the military.

For the rest, you gotta consider the source.

Date: 2007-05-03 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moropus.livejournal.com
I'm sure all VAs are different, but a loud angry ginmar is not going to inspire anyone to do their best work. You catch more flies with honey and all that.

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It's like meeting bigfoot

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Bullshit, asswipe

Date: 2007-05-07 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
I dare you to find one quote where I said I wanted superiority for females. You can't find it. Telling me I see sexism everywhere is like telling a fish they see water.

Date: 2007-05-09 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
You don't know who I am. I'm not a person to you. I'm some cunt, some bitch, some fucking weirdo, who you looked up on F_W. I'm nobody real. I'm not somebody who watched people die and couldn't help them. I'm not somebody who watched Polish soldiers die and didn't have the ability to do more than mark their deaths. I'm not the person who lived who shit where only luck made a difference. I'm not somebody who has feelings and wounds. I'm not somebody who has nightmares and flashbacks every fucking day. I'm not a person who stays inside her house because she thinks there are snipers out side. You just think I'm the poster child for one dimensional F_W bullshit. I'm the crazy feminist bitch who'd never read a book, who doesn't know history, who didn't see Babylon, who didn't learn some Arabic, who didn't love Iraq, who doesn't see faces in every accusation of terrorism. All I am to you is some fucking crazy cunt who you can make fun of. Go ahead.

Date: 2007-05-02 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bigbigtruck.livejournal.com
A big part of why I no longer discuss politics on my LJ was because it took so much damn energy and stress dealing with trolls and "friends." I wasn't doing any good before the trolls came, though, so it's not like anything was lost.

*nods*

Date: 2007-05-02 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turandot.livejournal.com
"Friends" are worse when they get on your case for political opinions, which I don't bandy around all that often anyway (only when I am extremely mad about something, and even then I need to have the time for it). Anonymous trolls are at least easy to ignore (as easy as the "delete" button), but friends? You still gotta find a way to appreciate their positives while they're getting puffed up over something that they knew beforehand I'd differ from them about, or it quickly de-evolves into the usual namecalling one upmanship that passes for etiquette on the web. =[

I'm far from having told anyone to go to hell following the spare political posts, but I can guarantee you I've done plenty of eye rolling at people who should have known better than to attack me for an opinion.

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Date: 2007-05-02 05:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
It *does* take a lot of energy - but I'm also of the mind you don't have to beat a dead horse. That seems to keep it to a low simmer.

Date: 2007-05-02 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dudemungus.livejournal.com
maybe it's just the one post, but it sounded like a couple guys came up and tried to be helpful, and she shit all over them because of HER sexual hangups. I mean, maybe they were off in their tactics, but a they seemed to have good intentions. The problem may be she assumed if anybody offers advice, it's because she is a woman. Maybe it's because the guy sincerely figured a TV/DVD player is a waste of money, and would have said the same thing to anybody. She attatched the assumed sexual heriarchy to it.

Date: 2007-05-02 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] betnoir.livejournal.com
I've also met women equally capable of offering unsolicited advice.

OTOH, as I mentioned to her, I've given guys advice on how to safely handle bare fiberglas rods and gotten nothing more than a heartfelt "Gee, thanks."

Date: 2007-05-02 09:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
Again, I have to offer the 'consider the source' rule.

For me, I've had everything from both genders and often a really WTF moment once in a while.

Date: 2007-05-03 12:55 am (UTC)
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Generally, I would rather take advice from a woman than ignore it and lose a finger. Gender does not equate status when I am told "watch that, it's hot".

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Re: What's a matter, babe, this too real for you?

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With respect to Kyburg

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Pssst.

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