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This guy is probably the reason you are being stared at by Six Apart these days. Him, and the people his blog serviced.

This guy is Jack McClellan, and he's a pedophile. He's also living out of his car in Santa Monica right now. After "moving" here from Washington State.

Do a Google on the guy's name. You hear all about his blog being the place where everyone can find out what a real perv this guy is - you'll find plenty of reports on what a perv this guy IS - but his actual blog?

Well, it was never on LJ or MySpace.

It was a free-standing site, served by the NIC, who quite legitimately made it go away.

There's something wrong with this guy. But - there's something equally wrong with a response like this one, isn't there?

And the slop over doesn't stop there.

Be male. Be white, male and good with kids.

People can't actually say anything, mind. But boy, they sure think it.

And for that, I hate these jokers all the more. Messing with kids, as bad as it is?

They're not the only innocents they take out with their actions. Fucking entitlement meatwads.

Date: 2007-08-17 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha-chan.livejournal.com
It was an offhand comment about an individual, not a broad generalization against a group. Get off your soap box, you're not impressing anyone or doing anything except coming off as a prick.

Date: 2007-08-17 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
It was an offhand comment
that's what entitlement looks like. offhanded and unthoughtful.

Date: 2007-08-17 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha-chan.livejournal.com
Yes, yes. Cry me an emo river about how entitled I am over an offhand comment. All the homeless pedophiles in the world need you as their grand champion. Your wit, proper grammar, and hair leerniz have convinced me *eyeroll*

Date: 2007-08-18 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
All the homeless pedophiles in the world need you as their grand champion.
red herring.

you need to think a little more about your careless entitled position.

people like crazy homeless pedophiles are problems in society that need to be addressed. telling them to gtfo your entitled sight moves that problem around - to people with much less entitlement than you.

your entitlement is showing. carelessness and thoughtlessness.

Date: 2007-08-18 05:31 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
*knock knock*

Entitlement is not another buzz word for heartless bastard. Although a lot of heartless bastards have entitlement issues - the word has other connotations.

Use some care - entitlement usually goes hand in hand with arrogance, and anyone who cares to slap that label on another? Has to have a bit of that in reserve.

I think what everyone wants here is a solution - the problem is, to get one? We'd need a means to get people who need services, to services. Where? Doesn't matter. The current CW says people need to take care of their problems, themselves. And of course, the unwritten assumption is if you can't - go off in a corner, die and gee whiz, don't make all that racket while you do.

Sadly, this treats the pedophile's victims much the same as the pedophile with that kind of thinking. Solve anything? Not so much.

If only we had the resources to actually deal instead of push away. GTFO is a very basic response to overload - best to recognize it for what it is.

Everything that it is, of course.

Date: 2007-08-18 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
Entitlement is not another buzz word for heartless bastard. Although a lot of heartless bastards have entitlement issues - the word has other connotations.
i'm not equating entitlement with heartleass bastard.
entitlement usually goes hand in hand with arrogance
this is true. and it is arrogant to be that thoughtless and careless about the consequences to other people - especially when given the opportunity to reflect upon it.
GTFO is a very basic response to overload - best to recognize it for what it is.
entitlement (like racism, classism, sexism, etc) exists as a systemic problem and embedded problem. it is embedded in society, meaning it is embedded in people. entitlement often finds expression clearest in overload situations - when people don't have the cognitive resources to censor their expression. that is to say, it is when one is least likely to edit one's words that the structure of how one thinks is most likely to be revealed.

not being able to recognize one's own entitlement and face it makes it difficult to make meaningful changes.

people want to think they are good - good without any mixture of bad. but people are a mixture of good and bad. denying the bad parts makes it impossible to address those parts and make them better.
I think what everyone wants here is a solution - the problem is, to get one?
not facing one's own entitlement means it's hard to see one's contribution to the current cultural milieu that make society think "people need to take care of their problems, themselves."
If only we had the resources to actually deal instead of push away.
start small. start locally. start with oneself.

Date: 2007-08-18 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
You'd like "entitlement" to cover everything, methinks. It would explain a lot.

I know a number of people who think all that's wrong with the rest of the world is that they have more money than them, and that justifies all the behavior they find offensive. "They're rich - they can do whatever they want!"

uh, noooooo.

I think a more productive approach is to simply realize that nobody is in this alone; nobody has to do one more thing for you.

It's hitting that balance between caring for self, and caring for others - when the rubber meets the road, people will care for themselves first.

It's the thinking that we should always operate as if we were in survival mode that's at fault. Because you would if you had to, you should at all times.

Entitlement is a newer term for something that has been around for a while - "those more fortunate."

Cut those ties, and you might just get somewhere.

Date: 2007-08-18 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
You'd like "entitlement" to cover everything, methinks. It would explain a lot.
no. that's exactly the problem. it's not all or nothing. entitlement is not an isolate. you can't point to anyone thing and say it is entitlement. entitlement is the accumulation of small things that add up. nothing is purely entitlement, and most things are not free entitlement.

a construction of entitlement like you stated makes addressing entitlement impossible.
I know a number of people who think all that's wrong with the rest of the world is that they have more money than them, and that justifies all the behavior they find offensive. "They're rich - they can do whatever they want!"

uh, noooooo.
entitlement is the sense "what i want - damn the consequences." it's not about money, though people with money can express their sense of entitlement more easily than others - they can pay to make the consequences gtfo.
when the rubber meets the road, people will care for themselves first.
this is a culture bound expectation.
Entitlement is a newer term for something that has been around for a while - "those more fortunate."
not really.

Date: 2007-08-19 02:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kyburg.livejournal.com
*winks* Except you're using the word for everything that's wrong here.

Date: 2007-08-18 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha-chan.livejournal.com
My thoughts on one person in one situation =/= thoughts on an entire group. You need to learn to not be so judgmental and how to not get worked up over something that has a.) nothing to do with you and b.) was not addressed to you personally.

Ooo, you think I'm entitled. Really, I care.

Date: 2007-08-18 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stoneself.livejournal.com
a.) nothing to do with you and b.) was not addressed to you personally.
i work with underprivileged people all the time. and i work on the problem of where the crazy people are supposed to go, the ethics of institutionalization, and the ethics of dealing with incurable cases. i also work on the problem of poor communities that get the criminally insane dumped on them because of exactly the gtfo attitude you expressed. careless thoughtless attitudes like yours make my work harder. so this kind of stuff has everything to do with me.

you words and actions have effects far beyond your intentions - even the small ones.
Really, I care.
that's the problem

Date: 2007-08-18 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yasha-chan.livejournal.com
careless thoughtless attitudes like yours make my work harder. so this kind of stuff has everything to do with me.


Actually, it's probably your holier-than-thou, pretentious attitude that makes your work harder. I don't really care what you do, it doesn't entitle you to go around being abrasive to people you don't even know. I actually live somewhere where homelessness is a large, daily issue so spare me your whine-one-one call on zomg the homeless epidemic.

I never said all crazy homeless people should GTFO, I said one crazy person, homeless by choice, should go back to whence he came, since unlike 99% of other homeless people he actually has somewhere to go. If that makes me entitled, like I said, oh boo hoo, I'm going to sit here and cry about your opinion of me.

Additionally, you misunderstand yet again. It's not the issue of homelessness that I'm apathetic towards, it's your opinion that I could care less about. Who are you? Some random snobby, condescending jackass whose opinion I have no reason to respect especially considering the way you treat people. So keep on, net soldier, with your e-vendetta, posting tl;dr rants and alienating people to your zomg!justice cause instead of actually doing something worthwhile with your time and effort.

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